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    We would like to thank Drs Satchithananda, Hookey and Sister Ingram for their interest in our editorial. We welcome this opportunity to respond. We framed our discussion in the setting of left ventricular systolic dysfunction as this is where the robust evidence base for heart failure therapy has evolved. The evidence base for effective therapy for the clinical syndrome of heart failure with preserved systolic function (HFpSF) is much weaker, with very few randomised controlled clinical trials (RCTs). However, we accept that the symptomatic burden and mortality risk for those with HFpSF is comparable, and loop diuretic therapy for the associated dyspnoea and congestion is no less applicable to that clinical cohort. Indeed, differentiating between such sub- populations may be largely irrelevant as many heart failure patients exhibit demonstrable abnormalities of both systolic and diastolic function.

    While there are differences in the assignment of weighting in terms of the class of recommendation and hierarchy of evidence on the conventional use of loop diuretics over the range of acute and chronic heart failure treatment guidelines, and RCTs may be hard to justify ethically, we have an experiential repository of about 40 years of clinical practice with the use of oral and intravenous furosemide across the clinical spectrum of heart failure. Accumulation of this experience underpins clinical judgement and is consistent with the development of so called 'tacit knowledge' which has been proposed as fundamental to evidence base development 1.

    Certainly, individualising patients' dosing regimens with appropriate clinical monitoring is mandated for this therapy to be effective and safe, irrespective of the route of furosemide administration as demonstrated in Diuretic Optimization Strategies Evaluation (DOSE) trial 2. The successful use of this approach specifically for the prescription of subcutaneous (SC) furosemide was apparent in the Scarborough study cited in our editorial in which a wide dosing range was employed 3. This study also demonstrated the effectiveness of multidisciplinary team working, widely accepted as beneficial across the entire heart failure disease trajectory, and no less relevant at the end of life 4. Indeed, the recently published NICE heart failure quality standards require such an approach, integrating the complementary clinical skills of both heart failure and palliative care professionals to support those with moderate to severe heart failure 5.

    The main driver behind our editorial was concern about the largely empirical adoption of SC furosemide by the palliative care community for the treatment of patients dying with heart failure as the primary terminal illness or as a comorbidity without addressing the need for systematic assessment of effectiveness or clinical risk. This use of SC furosemide for some of the sickest heart failure patients challenges the accepted treatment paradigm, but also provides opportunity for formal clinical evaluation, and we welcome the authors' potential contribution to development of the evidence base for this form of therapy.

    James M Beattie

    Department of Cardiology, Heart of England NHS Foundation Trust, Birmingham, UK; National Clinical Advisor, NHS Improvement.

    Miriam J Johnson

    Hull York Medical School, University of Hull; St Catherine's Hospice, Scarborough, UK.

    References

    1. Thornton T. Tacit knowledge as the unifying factor in evidence based medicine and clinical judgement. Philos Ethics Humanit Med. 2006 1:2

    2. Felker GM, Lee KL, Bull DA. et al, Diuretic strategies in patients with acute decompensated heart failure. N Engl J Med 2011; 364:797-805

    3. Zacharias H, Raw J, Nunn A. et al. Is there a role for subcutaneous furosemide in the community and hospice management of end- stage heart failure? Palliat Med 2011,25: 658-63.

    4. Ryder M, Beattie JM, O'Hanlon R. et al. Multidisciplinary heart failure management and end of life care. Curr Opin Support Pall Care 2011, 5: 317-21.

    5. NHS National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence. Heart failure quality standard, June 2011. Available from http://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/qualitystandards/chronicheartfailure/home.jsp

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  2. o Response to: 1 Subcutaneous furosemide in advanced heart failure: has clinical practice run ahead of the evidence base? James M Beattie, Miriam J Johnson BMJ Support Palliat Care 2012;2:5-6

    We read the editorial concerning the use of subcutaneous furosemide in heart failure with interest. We feel that there is a substantial opportunity for misinterpretation of the editorial by readers not as familiar with the issues raised as the eminent authors themselves. This particularly relates to: 1 The heart failure syndrome It is important to emphasize that the editorial relates to the treatment of congestive symptoms in patients suffering with the heart failure syndrome irrespective of its causal mechanism i.e. left ventricular systolic dysfunction is only one of many mechanisms inducing this syndrome i.e.50% of patients hospitalised with heart failure do not have left ventricular systolic dysfunction[1,2]. 2 The use of furosemide in heart failure symptom relief. It is important to recognise that the lack of evidence suggested for subcutaneous furosemide is equally applicable to any route of delivery for furosemide i.e. there are no placebo controlled randomised trials demonstrating the longer term benefits of furosemide (irrespective of its administration route) in terms of morbidity and mortality in heart failure. Indeed there is a discrepancy in the analysis of the evidence for the Grade 1 recommendation for furosemide (i.e. evidence and or general agreement that a treatment or procedure is beneficial, useful and effective) suggested both by American and European guidelines in heart failure. The European Society of Cardiology guideline [3]suggests the level of evidence is 'B' (i.e. limited populations evaluated. Data derived from a single randomised trial or from non-randomised studies) wheras the American Heart Association [1] evaluates the same evidence as 'C' (i.e. very limited populations evaluated. Only consensus opinions of experts, case studies or standards of care).

    3 The efficacy and dosing of subcutaneous furosemide The argument in favour of this practice is clearly documented by the authors . Difficulties in dosing subcutaneous diuretics should be taken within the similar uncertainties existing for the administration of any diuretic irrespective of its route. The most recent (and only randomised large scale trial of diuretics in decompensated heart failure) suggest no substantial clinical difference between dose size or frequency of administration of intravenous diuretics for decompensated heart failure[4]. There is no reason to suspect that this lack of clear efficacy of any single intravenous diuretic regime should not equally apply to subcutaneously administered furosemide. It is additionally not unusual within the evidence based practice of heart failure to extrapolate evidence into populations not represented within that evidence e.g. the majority of ACEI and B blocker trials have populations entirely unrepresentative of clinically encountered populations[5]. 5 Clinical expertise and patient values Heart failure is not a diuretic deficiency disease. Therefore the use of increasing doses of diuretics, their need for titration, measures of their success and the need for other cardiac and non-cardiac interventions to reduce symptoms should all occur within the framework of a multi- disciplinary heart failure programme (irrespective of the route of administration of the augmented diuretic)[1,3]. Our own practice specifically with regard to subcutaneous diuretics is to use professionals skilled in the management of congestive symptoms to regularly titrate the dose of subcutaneous diuretics until a pre-specified goal or end point is reached. Weight reduction is only one feature of this assessment. It should be noted that in a registry of over 100,000 patients hospitalised with heart failure one third of patients lost < 2.3 Kg and 16% gained weight over their entire hospitalisation [2].

    While we agree with the authors that there is a need for further evaluation of the use of subcutaneous fursoemide in the management of advanced heart failure (indeed we are seeking to add to the evidence base in this area), we feel that it may be unhelpful to isolate only this area of heart failure management for comment. We hope that contextualising the editorial's concerns (within the available knowledge of current heart failure practice) will ensure the continued use of this route of administration to afford patients' choice and control in the management of their progressive chronic illness.

    References 1 Hunt SA, Abraham WT, Chin MH, Feldman AM, et al. 2009 Focused update incorporated into the ACC/AHA 2005 Guidelines for the Diagnosis and Management of Heart Failure in Adults A Report of the American College of Cardiology Foundation/American Heart Association Task Force on Practice Guidelines Developed in Collaboration With the International Society for Heart and Lung Transplantation.. Circulation. 2009;119:1977-2016, 2 Gheorghiade M, Filippatos G. Reassessing treatment of acute heart failure syndromes: the ADHERE Registry. European Heart Journal Supplements (2005) 7 (Supplement B), B13-B19 3 Dickstein K, Cohen-Solal A, Filippatos G et al. ESC guidelines for the diagnosis and treatment of acute and chronic heart failure 2008: the Task Force for the diagnosis and treatment of acute and chronic heart failure 2008 of the European Society of Cardiology. Developed in collaboration with the Heart Failure Association of the ESC (HFA) and endorsed by the European Society of Intensive Care Medicine (ESICM). Eur J Heart Fail. 2008 Oct;10(10):933-89. 4 Fonarow GC Comparative Effectiveness of Diuretic Regimens. N Engl J Med 2011; 364:877-878

    5 Mattie J. Lenzen1,*, Eric Boersma1, Wilma J.M. Scholte op Reimer et al. Under-utilization of evidence-based drug treatment in patients with heart failure is only partially explained by dissimilarity to patients enrolled in landmark trials: a report from the Euro Heart Survey on Heart Failure. European Heart Journal (2005) 26, 2706-2713

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  3. 'Compassionate community networks: supporting home dying ': useful parallels from previous practice

    The introduction of a novel scheme in Weston-super-Mare described by Abel et al.,[1] which utilises a health care mentor to assist palliative care patients identify supportive networks within their communities and seeks to foster the development of compassionate community networks is to be congratulated. While the scheme is undoubtedly innovative in a palliative care setting a comparable model was initiated in a generalist community health care setting in Scotland almost a decade ago. The WHO Europe Family Health Nursing Pilot in Scotland[2] was supported by the delivery of an educational programme by the University of Stirling from 2001-2005. The pilot was part of a wider European initiative developed from the recommendations of HEALTH 21.[3] Assessment and documentation used by nursing staff in the pilot was based on the Calgary Family Assessment Model [4] and included the use of genograms and ecomaps. There have been several published evaluations of the Family Health Nursing Pilot and a conceptual model of Family Centred Health Care developed.[2,5,6,7] Congruent with compassionate communities the emphasis of this model is to shift the focus from an individual to a community perspective. Whilst it is clear that the authors view the use of health care mentors as only the first step in developing autonomous community networks, they may perhaps draw parallels from the Family Health Nurse Pilot to facilitate development of their current scheme in Weston-super-Mare. 1.Abel J, Bowra J, Walter T, Howarth G. Compassionate community networks: supporting home dying. BMJ Support Palliat Care 2011; 1:129-133. 2. Scottish Executive. The WHO Europe Family Health Nursing Pilot in Scotland Final Report. Edinburgh: Scottish Executive 2006. 3. World Health Organisation (WHO). Europe HEALTH21: Health for all in the 21st Century. Copenhagen: WHO Europe 1998. 4. Wright L, Leahey M. Nurses and Families: a guide to family assessment and Intervention. Third edition. Philadelphia: FA Davis Company 2000. 5. MacDuff C, West BJM. An evaluation of the first year of family health nursing practice in Scotland. International Journal of Nursing Studies 2005; 42:47-59 6. Murray I. Family Health Nurse Project--An Education Program of the World Health Organization : The University of Stirling Experience Journal of Family Nursing 2008;14(4):469-485 7. Parfitt B A, Cornish F, Whyte L, Van Hooren M. Family Centred Health Care: The Contribution of Family Health Nurses. An Evaluation of the Family Health Nurse Role, Phase 2: School of Nursing, Midwifery and Community Health, Glasgow Caledonian University 2006.

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    I am employed by the University of Stirling but I was not a member of the institution during the Family Health Nurse Pilot.

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  4. Re:A response to 'Increased mortality in parents bereaved in the first year of their child's life': Statistical points and possible extensions

    We are grateful for the opportunity to respond to Chu and Percy's interesting comments on our paper. We accept that older and younger age may be associated with more medical problems in mothers and this could explain some of the higher mortality in bereaved parents versus non- bereaved parents, however the increased mortality findings were demonstrated for fathers as well as mothers. Although the age of the mother may explain some of the variation, there must be additional factors which explain some of the excess mortality. Regarding the consolidation of stillbirth and infant death records, we found that there was no difference in mortality rates between those who experienced stillbirth and those who experienced infant death. We therefore felt it was appropriate to combine the data from these groups. In addition, the association between age of child at time of death and impact on the parent is far from certain, as reported by in previous studies such as Anderson (2005), Engelkemeyer & Marwit (2008) and Hazzard, Weston and Gutterres (1992). We have additional manuscripts under review which will further support the view that grief following the loss of a child is unrelated to the age of the child at the time of their death. Finally, Chu and Percy suggest that an alternative sampling method would yield more data. The limitation of the Scottish sample is due to the protocols followed by the Scottish Longitudinal Study and as such, the authors were restricted to the data made available by this service. Sampling higher than 5.3% of the Scottish population is not currently possible, unfortunately. We thank Chu and Percy for their comments on this research and for their insight into possible alternative explanations for the excess mortality in bereaved parents.

    References Anderson, M., Marwit, S. J., Vandenberg, B., & Chibnall, J. (2005). Psychological and religious coping strategies of mothers bereaved by the sudden death of a child. Death Studies, 29(9), 811-826. Engelkemeyer, S., & Marwit, S. J. (2008). Posttraumatic growth in bereaved parents. Journal of Traumatic Stress, 21(3), 344-346. Hazzard, A., Weston, J., & Gutterres, C. (1992). After A Childs Death - Factors Related to Parental Bereavement. [6-50 months]. Journal of Developmental and Behavioral Pediatrics, 13(1), 24-30.

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  5. A response to 'Increased mortality in parents bereaved in the first year of their child's life': Statistical points and possible extensions

    We read with interest the article by Harper et al in the last edition of this journal (2011;1:306-309). By establishing a correlation between infant mortality and the increased mortality risk of the parents, the article speaks, albeit indirectly, to the possible links between emotional and physical states - a topic of important and growing interest. However, two points present themselves about the authors' analysis - the first is statistical, the second conceptual.

    Harper et al are direct about possible confounding factors for which they were unable to control but which may nullify any causal link implied by the statistical correlation they identify (p308). However, given their use of census data, there is one possible confounding factor that they might have controlled for - age of parent at the time of birth. Harper et al imply that the small difference in mean age between the comparison and control group means age should not raise concern. However, if parent and infant mortality are more likely among both older and younger parents, the difference in mean age might be minimal or invisible, even though the casual implications of the chi-squared correlation would be weakened. Previous research suggests that such a two-sided confounding factor may exist for age. Young births, such as teenage pregnancies, have been linked to worse outcomes for both mother and child (see, for example, citations in Wellings and Kaye, 1999). Births to older parents are similarly more likely to face complications and older parents would naturally be closer to average life expectancies.

    The results presented by the authors point towards this possibility. The 'bereaved' group manifests a wider range of ages than the 'control' group. The effect is most significant in the English data - the smallest difference in standard deviations exists for the 1981-1991 cohort, which is between 8.4 and 5.7. Since the English data manifest a higher relative risk, it is worth exploring whether age may be such a confounding factor. Year of birth might also be included in the analysis, to control for the possibility that both infant and parent mortality risks may be shifting over time.

    The second concern is a conceptual one. If a ceteris paribus causal link exists between the death of one's children and an increased mortality risk for parents, it seems likely that this is linked to the trauma caused by the loss of a loved one. But emotional bonds are not all equal - on average, they might be expected to become stronger over time. From this perspective, the average relative risk of parent mortality after a miscarriage should be lower than death in childbirth, which would be lower in turn than death in early infancy and the death of a young child.

    The Dutch study (Li et al, 2003) referenced by Harper et al bears out this principle - the relative risk of parent mortality in their study is higher for a child dying aged between 1 and 11 months than a child dying at less than one month. The analysis by Harper et al can be extended to explore this hypothesis. Parents suffering stillbirths and infant mortalities are currently combined into a single category - by splitting the two groups, differences might be observed. The accidental inclusion of parents whose child dies aged older than one in the 'non-bereaved' group would bias effects downward, but differences may still be observable.

    For the Scottish data, ethical non-identification reasons and small sample sizes prevented such subgroup analysis (p307). However, the small sample size resulted by design - the choice of 20 birthdays or 5.3% of the population. Had the authors chosen a larger set of birthdays, it may have been ethically possible to analyse the two subgroups in greater detail. No such restriction applied to the English data.

    The authors are to be congratulated on their research and we agree with them that further statistical and case study work is required. We hope that the suggestions are amenable to straightforward exploration on similar datasets to those used by the authors.

    Dr Wing Chu, ST1 Doctor in Palliative Care; Christian Percy, Statistical Consultant

    References Wellings, K. and Kane, R. (1999), 'Trends in teenage pregnancy in England and Wales: how can we explain them', J R Soc Med 1999;92:277-282

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